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Upgrading to Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron or “Ubuntu sucks… get a Mac”

I should admit – I shamelessly borrowed part of the title for this post from Tyler.
I had exactly same feeling after upgrading from Ubuntu 7.10 to 8.04.

I’ve been meaning to write about this upgrade for almost two months now. Right after Ubuntu 8.04 was released I upgraded two of my laptops from Ubuntu 7.10 to 8.04. I know, I know, never download software on the release date, wait for a couple of months before all major bugs are fixed and it starts working somehow. But anyway…

On Lenovo T61 everything went mostly fine. After upgrade crash report tool complained about nautilus crash. Then more serious issues started popping up:

  • Parallels stopped working. I use this tool quite a lot to debug web pages in different browsers in different operating systems. Apparently there was no support for Ubuntu 8.10 Hardy Heron from Parallels team yet, and the older version that worked in Ubuntu 7.10 didn’t work anymore because of compatibility issues in newer 2.6.24 kernel.A temporary solution (Parallels build 2.2.2226) was provided at a time, and now a new official compatible Parallels release is available for Ubuntu 8.04.
  • Samsung SCX-4521F printer refused to work even after proprietory drivers reinstallation. Fortunately solution to this problem was quickly found by one of Ubuntu community members.

On Sony Vaio there were more troubles.

  • Since kernel version changed after upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10, I had to download and reinstall proprietory drivers for Nvidia 8400M graphics card. Kernel changed a couple of times after that as a part of standard package update procedure in 8.10, and each time after that I have to reinstall drivers from NVidia site.
  • sleep/hibernate on Vaio still doesn’t work

Now to the good things:

  • No more proprietory drivers for Intel wireless card (iwl3945 driver)
  • Firefox 3. My first reaction – it is a beauty. (Although after using it for a couple of months, I experienced all beauties of a beta version – random crashes, some sites are not rendered properly, etc.)
  • CPU scaling is finally working out of the box and Sony Vaio laptop is not overheating anymore

As I already said, my initial feeling after upgrading to 8.10 was “Ubuntu sucks… get a Mac”. A major upgrade to the next long-term support version was not exactly what I expected. Small, but very annoying bugs in basic functionality undermined success of otherwise very good release. Recently Nokia started supporting Ubuntu for work computers and I immediately changed RedHat on my work laptop to Ubuntu. However I decided to go for Ubuntu 7.10, not 8.04. It works perfectly, even if OpenOffice version is just v2.3 and Firefox – 2.0.

As Tyler put it “[...] get a Mac. Why? Because for the most part, shit works when you plug it in“. I couldn’t agree more. I still stay with Ubuntu, but this last release made me think about moving to Mac again.

Update 2009-05-23: To do justice to Ubuntu – I have not purchased Mac, but upgraded to 9.04 and been generally happy with it.

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5 Comments

  1. When you make the decision to purchase shitty hardware, well, then you get shitty Linux results because of bad specs. Also, you must only utilize the standard supported repositories unless you know what you are doing. I presume you utilized the do-release-upgrade tool as specified in the Ubuntu documentation for upgrading. If not, then I understand why you had issues. Ubuntu rocks…you do not :-)

    Saturday, July 12, 2008 at 1:26 | Permalink
  2. Andre wrote:

    You are so right. I have countless problems with ubuntu-studio after a doing fresh install of 8.04 (I never use the version upgrade option, it can be a major can of worms). Ubuntu 7.10 however seems to work fine. Therefore I see 8.04 more as a testing release as it\’s certainly not well tested. I think Ubuntu has with this release bitten of a bit more than it can chew, probably their forced release schedule. I seriously consider going back to 7.10 or Debian which I used before. Debian (and FreeBSD) have a more conservative approach to new releases but at least they are rock solid en well tested. So unless you have the need for the latest and greatest apps (and bugs) I\’d go with Debian. Debian is easy to install and is absolutely rock solid. Don\’t get me wrong, I love Ubuntu, it is just that this latest release has put me off. This is also how I came to this article, I googled \

    Thursday, July 17, 2008 at 14:43 | Permalink
  3. LeonS wrote:

    I have to agree that Hardy (8.04) is kind of buggy. It\’s frustrating. After jumping around a few distros/OS\’s because each started turning into time sucking monsters eventually I found Ubuntu (7.10) and pretty much all my problems melted away. With a few tolerable exceptions everything did just work. So perhaps I jumped on board to 8.10 with a little too much faith. On my desktop most of the problems seem to stem from pulseaudio. I get the impression that pulseaudio has a superior architecture and the distro managers fell in love with it and released it, but half of the applications don\’t support it yet. My work laptop, a Dell D830, had some server wireless issues. I did find a work around and got it to work… and then an upgrade come along and breaks it again! I found a bug for this that claimed to recognize and fix this problem, but even with the latest upgrade I could still not get my wireless working. On top of that when I did have the wireless working it could not see my SAMBA or Windows shares. Our Mac and our Windows box both could see all the shares no problem, but not the 8.04 Ubuntu laptop. When I get time I\’ll try loading 7.10 on the laptop for now.

    Friday, July 18, 2008 at 4:27 | Permalink
  4. daniel wrote:

    I have also face lots of problems with Ubuntu-studio after a doing fresh install of 8.04 . But Ubuntu 7.10 work well.

    Monday, December 29, 2008 at 11:48 | Permalink
  5. Не поспоришь, глупая заметка

    Monday, May 17, 2010 at 22:20 | Permalink

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