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	<title>Comments on: Upgrading to Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron or &#8220;Ubuntu sucks&#8230; get a Mac&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Скачать photoshop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Скачать photoshop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 19:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Не поспоришь, глупая заметка</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Не поспоришь, глупая заметка</p>
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		<title>By: daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 08:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have also face lots of problems with Ubuntu-studio after a doing fresh install of 8.04 . But Ubuntu 7.10 work well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have also face lots of problems with Ubuntu-studio after a doing fresh install of 8.04 . But Ubuntu 7.10 work well.</p>
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		<title>By: LeonS</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeonS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 01:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree that Hardy (8.04) is kind of buggy. It\&#039;s frustrating. After jumping around a few distros/OS\&#039;s because each started turning into time sucking monsters eventually I found Ubuntu (7.10) and pretty much all my problems melted away. With a few tolerable exceptions everything did just work. So perhaps I jumped on board to 8.10 with a little too much faith. On my desktop most of the problems seem to stem from pulseaudio. I get the impression that pulseaudio has a superior architecture and the distro managers fell in love with it and released it, but half of the applications don\&#039;t support it yet. My work laptop, a Dell D830, had some server wireless issues. I did find a work around and got it to work... and then an upgrade come along and breaks it again! I found a bug for this that claimed to recognize and fix this problem, but even with the latest upgrade I could still not get my wireless working. On top of that when I did have the wireless working it could not see my SAMBA or Windows shares. Our Mac and our Windows box both could see all the shares no problem, but not the 8.04 Ubuntu laptop. When I get time I\&#039;ll try loading 7.10 on the laptop for now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree that Hardy (8.04) is kind of buggy. It\&#8217;s frustrating. After jumping around a few distros/OS\&#8217;s because each started turning into time sucking monsters eventually I found Ubuntu (7.10) and pretty much all my problems melted away. With a few tolerable exceptions everything did just work. So perhaps I jumped on board to 8.10 with a little too much faith. On my desktop most of the problems seem to stem from pulseaudio. I get the impression that pulseaudio has a superior architecture and the distro managers fell in love with it and released it, but half of the applications don\&#8217;t support it yet. My work laptop, a Dell D830, had some server wireless issues. I did find a work around and got it to work&#8230; and then an upgrade come along and breaks it again! I found a bug for this that claimed to recognize and fix this problem, but even with the latest upgrade I could still not get my wireless working. On top of that when I did have the wireless working it could not see my SAMBA or Windows shares. Our Mac and our Windows box both could see all the shares no problem, but not the 8.04 Ubuntu laptop. When I get time I\&#8217;ll try loading 7.10 on the laptop for now.</p>
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		<title>By: Andre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are so right. I have countless problems with ubuntu-studio after a doing fresh install of 8.04 (I never use the version upgrade option, it can be a major can of worms). Ubuntu 7.10 however seems to work fine. Therefore I see 8.04 more as a testing release as it\&#039;s certainly not well tested. I think Ubuntu has with this release bitten of a bit more than it can chew, probably their forced release schedule. I seriously consider going back to 7.10 or Debian which I used before. Debian (and FreeBSD) have a more conservative approach to new releases but at least they are rock solid en well tested. So unless you have the need for the latest and greatest apps (and bugs) I\&#039;d go with Debian. Debian is easy to install and is absolutely rock solid. Don\&#039;t get me wrong, I love Ubuntu, it is just that this latest release has put me off. This is also how I came to this article, I googled \</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are so right. I have countless problems with ubuntu-studio after a doing fresh install of 8.04 (I never use the version upgrade option, it can be a major can of worms). Ubuntu 7.10 however seems to work fine. Therefore I see 8.04 more as a testing release as it\&#8217;s certainly not well tested. I think Ubuntu has with this release bitten of a bit more than it can chew, probably their forced release schedule. I seriously consider going back to 7.10 or Debian which I used before. Debian (and FreeBSD) have a more conservative approach to new releases but at least they are rock solid en well tested. So unless you have the need for the latest and greatest apps (and bugs) I\&#8217;d go with Debian. Debian is easy to install and is absolutely rock solid. Don\&#8217;t get me wrong, I love Ubuntu, it is just that this latest release has put me off. This is also how I came to this article, I googled \</p>
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		<title>By: Kristian Erik Hermansen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristian Erik Hermansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you make the decision to purchase shitty hardware, well, then you get shitty Linux results because of bad specs.  Also, you must only utilize the standard supported repositories unless you know what you are doing.  I presume you utilized the do-release-upgrade tool as specified in the Ubuntu documentation for upgrading.  If not, then I understand why you had issues.  Ubuntu rocks...you do not :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you make the decision to purchase shitty hardware, well, then you get shitty Linux results because of bad specs.  Also, you must only utilize the standard supported repositories unless you know what you are doing.  I presume you utilized the do-release-upgrade tool as specified in the Ubuntu documentation for upgrading.  If not, then I understand why you had issues.  Ubuntu rocks&#8230;you do not <img src='http://www.ivankuznetsov.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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