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	<title>Comments on: Sampo bank software upgrade, Ubuntu and beta culture</title>
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		<title>By: java6 - StartTags.com</title>
		<link>http://www.ivankuznetsov.com/2008/04/sampo-bank-software-upgrade-ubuntu-and-beta-culture.html/comment-page-1#comment-18791</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 20:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] sun-java6-javadb sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts msttcorefonts googleearth virtualbox-ose; ...Ivan Kuznetsov Sampo bank software upgrade, Ubuntu and beta ...Ivan Kuznetsov - web 2.0 enterpreneur, agile evangelist and consultant ... sudo apt-get remove [...]</description>
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		<title>By: JT</title>
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		<dc:creator>JT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 13:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too have this very same problem, after calling the Sampopankki helpdesk the operator suggested downgrading, and admitted that 1.6.06 version (on linux) has caused/experienced problems with authetication - in my case, I am unable to authenticate the actual paying of the bill, and in some case inability to type into the requested fields. 8.04 Hardy user here too, not going to downgrade unless I absolutely must - Ill just have to resort to paying my bills at work or somewher else until the problem resolves/I grow weary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too have this very same problem, after calling the Sampopankki helpdesk the operator suggested downgrading, and admitted that 1.6.06 version (on linux) has caused/experienced problems with authetication &#8211; in my case, I am unable to authenticate the actual paying of the bill, and in some case inability to type into the requested fields. 8.04 Hardy user here too, not going to downgrade unless I absolutely must &#8211; Ill just have to resort to paying my bills at work or somewher else until the problem resolves/I grow weary.</p>
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		<title>By: Atanas Boev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Atanas Boev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 18:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You would think the situation is better under Windows, but its not really so much better. At home I have some older tabletpc, running winxp (why its not running xp tablet is another long story). The point is that the pc runs on 900mhz, and I really keep the installed software at minimum.
One day Sampo webpage insisted that I install java, it said its &quot;crucial&quot; for accessing webbank, so I had to give up and follow the link offered, installing yet another thing on my old and faitful tablet. I was tired after work, I had to pay some bills, so I run through the wizard fast - open, yes, next, next, next, finish.
And guess what - I got Google toolbar. I like Google toolbar, but I don&#039;t want it on my tablet, and I definately don&#039;t want it pushed on me. It was right there, in the middle of the wizerd, checked by default. If I was some average guy, I might think its also &quot;crucial&quot; for accessing Sampo webbank. I immediately got furious (remember, tired from work) and deinstalled the damn thing. No really, its beyound any expectation that my bank pushes Google toolbar on me - and I am sure there is a link where one could get JRE without getting Google toolbar.
Apart from staying in my system tray and definately eating resources, couple of days later the java cried out of the systray that it needs update. &quot;Cried out&quot; is exactly what it did, as it showed a baloon tooltip in the tray, and for everyone that reads comicstrips it looked like the systray himself said &quot;Java needs an update!&quot;.
I was still angry with the whole java issue, so I did - damn, again that java, next, next, finish. And guess what - I got Google toolbar again.
So, I could not agree more when you wrote Sampske Bank feels like Beta - and that is exatly how it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You would think the situation is better under Windows, but its not really so much better. At home I have some older tabletpc, running winxp (why its not running xp tablet is another long story). The point is that the pc runs on 900mhz, and I really keep the installed software at minimum.<br />
One day Sampo webpage insisted that I install java, it said its &#8220;crucial&#8221; for accessing webbank, so I had to give up and follow the link offered, installing yet another thing on my old and faitful tablet. I was tired after work, I had to pay some bills, so I run through the wizard fast &#8211; open, yes, next, next, next, finish.<br />
And guess what &#8211; I got Google toolbar. I like Google toolbar, but I don&#8217;t want it on my tablet, and I definately don&#8217;t want it pushed on me. It was right there, in the middle of the wizerd, checked by default. If I was some average guy, I might think its also &#8220;crucial&#8221; for accessing Sampo webbank. I immediately got furious (remember, tired from work) and deinstalled the damn thing. No really, its beyound any expectation that my bank pushes Google toolbar on me &#8211; and I am sure there is a link where one could get JRE without getting Google toolbar.<br />
Apart from staying in my system tray and definately eating resources, couple of days later the java cried out of the systray that it needs update. &#8220;Cried out&#8221; is exactly what it did, as it showed a baloon tooltip in the tray, and for everyone that reads comicstrips it looked like the systray himself said &#8220;Java needs an update!&#8221;.<br />
I was still angry with the whole java issue, so I did &#8211; damn, again that java, next, next, finish. And guess what &#8211; I got Google toolbar again.<br />
So, I could not agree more when you wrote Sampske Bank feels like Beta &#8211; and that is exatly how it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan Kuznetsov</title>
		<link>http://www.ivankuznetsov.com/2008/04/sampo-bank-software-upgrade-ubuntu-and-beta-culture.html/comment-page-1#comment-6191</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan Kuznetsov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 12:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm... If same Java build has problems with two different bank systems, there must be something wrong with that build. I previously thought it is a problem with Sampo&#039;s applet implementation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230; If same Java build has problems with two different bank systems, there must be something wrong with that build. I previously thought it is a problem with Sampo&#8217;s applet implementation.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Poulsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Poulsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 11:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing your experience.
Had the same problem (different bank, though) and your solution (down-grading java) solved it for me as well.

Have you reported this as a bug?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing your experience.<br />
Had the same problem (different bank, though) and your solution (down-grading java) solved it for me as well.</p>
<p>Have you reported this as a bug?</p>
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